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Ken Miller on Intelligent Design Posted by: theblur
Video duration: 7030 seconds Ken Miller's talk on Intelligent Design at Case Western University. Ken Miller basically rips Intelligent Design apart in a 2 hour long exposé of the claims of intelligent design and the tactics that creationists employ to get it shoehorned into the American school system. Display Video Comments | Hide Video Comments | Add Comment Latest comments made on this video:
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By: Onithyr. on 04 Dec 08, 00:38:21
"no its only real in your mind, not in reality." Projection's a bitch "you only want to believe it is so you wont have to give up your lifestyle." Non-sequitur: what does evolution have to do with any lifestyle? "but there is no evidencde" Despite the fact that you couldn't even attempt to refute the evidence that WE present let alone the evidence presented by biologists themselves.
By: TheProf1988. on 03 Dec 08, 22:14:42
'because you only want to believe it is so you wont have to give up your lifestyle.' renfield, please psychoanalyse me. I am an evolution accepting person; what is my lifestyle?
By: Erech01. on 03 Dec 08, 21:22:45
wasnt it the past 3 popes (or somthing likethat:P) that denounced creationism and its decetful methods? correct me if im wrong Librarylu;)
By: Erech01. on 03 Dec 08, 21:20:30
'no its only real in your mind, not in reality' that doesnt even make sense.. 'ecause you only want to believe it is so you wont have to give up your lifestyle.' evolution effects people lifestyles now.....ok...... 'and all of the leading top evolutionists say the same thing' evolutionists are mythical creatures made up by biblical litralists to scare kids at bible camp, therfore they cant say anything on the matter.
By: librarylu. on 03 Dec 08, 18:12:48
" but there is no evidencde or proof for it and all of the leading top evolutionists say the same thing. you just want to velieve it because they got letters behind their name" I believe they say there's no evidence? That was muddled even for you. You might want to learn how to spell Michael Ruse's name before you copy quote-mines trying to discredit him. I've already posted what he meant. Top evolutionists and mainstream religion agree the scientific evidence for evolution is overwhelming.
By: BMSRoyBasch. on 03 Dec 08, 16:34:13
What lifestyle exactly? Denying evidence for evolution won't make evolution go away. Stop saying belief, it implies faith when there's none to be had here because there is observable evidence for evolution.
By: Renfield37. on 03 Dec 08, 15:39:11
no its only real in your mind, not in reality. because you only want to believe it is so you wont have to give up your lifestyle. but there is no evidencde or proof for it and all of the leading top evolutionists say the same thing. you just want to velieve it because they got letters behind their name
By: wildreams. on 03 Dec 08, 15:21:26
LOL, ur friends with Magibon XD Anyway, back to the question.. Your idea of creationism is quite different with the traditional definition of Young Earth Creationism proposed in the Dover Trial and obviously supported by HISTRUTHBEKNOWN and Renfield37. Although i do not share the same beliefs with you i'm 100% sure that you are more rational and intellectually honest than these ppl;)
By: librarylu. on 03 Dec 08, 14:57:38
"yeah.. so? and you think evolution is real.. but its not" Of course it's real ...and without it you wouldn't be here making a fool of yourself. Do you actually read the posts or do you just go "nayah, nayah, na, na, na" and copy and paste yourself?
By: Renfield37. on 03 Dec 08, 14:46:55
no, he is right
By: Renfield37. on 03 Dec 08, 14:45:53
yeah.. so? and you think evolution is real.. but its not
By: librarylu. on 03 Dec 08, 13:22:59
"...would form a line 150 miles long..." And they never would have been more than ten miles from an Egyptian outpost. Jerico was abandoned when Joshua supposedly conquered it. Other sites mentioned in the OT were destroyed by earthquake, Egyptians or the Sea People. Some were known in the 7th-8th centuries BC, but didn't exist when the "conquest" was supposed to have happened. Josephus thought the Hyskos were the Israelites, but they were rulers, not slaves, and were expelled by Ahmose.
By: librarylu. on 03 Dec 08, 13:13:50
"but we are not contesting evolution. Creationism agrees with Darwinism, creationism is hand by hand with Darwinism. " Huh? Haven't you been reading the posts about how EVILution is the spawn of boneheads Darwin and Lyle and is only believed in by materialistic naturalists, atheists and reprobates? Creationists believe the Bible is true and inerrant and that evolution is a lie. Biological evolution has nothing to do with cosmology. Are you confusing creationism with theistic evolution?
By: reformidatio. on 03 Dec 08, 07:54:04
but we are not contesting evolution. Creationism agrees with Darwinism, creationism is hand by hand with Darwinism. Creationists only defends the idea that the universe did not start by its own... Its impossible for something to simply appear from nowhere and explode into something. There must be intervention of intelligence to "press a button" and BAM, there goes the big bang, or maybe creating a universe without an explosion. And leaving it be... TO slowly evolute... Darwinism + Creationism.
By: wildreams. on 03 Dec 08, 06:24:08
many generations so as to better survived in a new environment.
By: wildreams. on 03 Dec 08, 06:23:08
When the theory of evolution arises, it assumes that when an organism gave birth to the next generation. Traits are inherited, and in addition to inherited traits, there must be room for the emergence of new traits not found in previous generation. Genetic discovery of random mutation and genetic heredity indirectly proven in detail how these can occur. Correctly fulfilling a prediction of Evolution. The observation he states showed Evolution in action, how organisms changed after
By: wildreams. on 03 Dec 08, 06:15:33
i meant "he made" not "me make"
By: wildreams. on 03 Dec 08, 06:12:33
Obviously u still have confusion between Evolution and Abiogenesis and Spontaneous Generation o.O And i don't think Thomas Huxley has anything to do with Abiogenesis again. Please, we are trying to help u understand the difference, please take a minute to ponder.
By: wildreams. on 03 Dec 08, 06:09:31
So u disagree with him? U don't think me make sense? U think he contradicted the Bible in making a statement like that?
By: wildreams. on 03 Dec 08, 06:05:23
Obviously, you have a poor understanding on thermodynamics and the implications it have in describing behaviour of a closed system vs an open system. And there is nothihg we can say to make u understand. U need to go back to school.
By: BMSRoyBasch. on 03 Dec 08, 04:14:27
How can it be all of the above? Natural Selection is observable. Mutations have been observed. Speciation has been observed. All of this is illogical? Our lowly origins from something simple to something more complicated. How is this arrogant? Observing evidence is ignorant? Evidence does exist, claiming that it doesn't won't make it go away.
By: ebola23410. on 03 Dec 08, 03:07:52
Archaeological research has found no evidence that the Sinai desert ever hosted, or could have hosted, millions of people, nor of a massive population increase in Canaan, estimated to have had a population of between 50,000 and 100,000, at the end of the march. The logistics involved also present problems: Eric Cline, points out that 2.5 million people marching ten abreast would form a line 150 miles long, without accounting for livestock.
By: ebola23410. on 03 Dec 08, 03:07:18
taken literally the total number involved, the 600,000 "fighting men" plus wives, children, the elderly, and the "mixed multitude," would have been two million or more, equivalent to something between half and almost the entire Egyptian population of around 3-6 million. The loss of such a huge proportion of the population would have caused havoc to the Egyptian economy, yet no such effect has been discovered.
By: ebola23410. on 03 Dec 08, 03:06:28
Mutations add information. Nylon digesting bug is an example. Also, there are such things as reverse mutations like in the Ames test. Take a mutation f(x) that changes a reading frame into a non reading frame by a substitution and "loss of information". A reverse mutation f-1(x) will revert the mutation and "gain information"
By: HISTRUTHBEKNOWN. on 03 Dec 08, 03:00:13
ebola23410 "Show me the empricial evidence that what I said was not supported. Lizards left on Croatian islands during the War of Independencce develop cecal valves to adapt to the enviroment. E coli after passaging for many generations in citrate media develop genes to break down citrate" What does any observation have to do with Darwinism/Evolution that never had a start & never happened? Mutations cause a loss of information, are deleterious, cause mutations/mistakes etc. This is not EVO.